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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 27.06.2025 00:22

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

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ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Is there such a thing as "left wing fascism"? If not, what is an example of a political ideology that is often mistakenly labeled as "left wing fascism"?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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How do I know if he loves me? When he wants me to be his gf he make time for me and send me morning and night messages and done everything to melt my heart. Now I am his gf and he don't treat me that way now.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

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ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

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ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

then who is there to know what happens without?

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I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Kabir (a weaver)

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Now here in this verse

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I am like a fish out of water,

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

CONCLUSION:

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

NOW…

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

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ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.